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Re: Deep Fritz 14

Post  Bacolod Chess on Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:16 pm

maelic wrote:Hi guys,
I wanna ask you if everybody who has already downloaded DF14 could download my torrent file, start it, copy downloaded ISO into the folder, click on chesck files and SEED for a while. I cant make it alone so I have to rely on you.
Thanks belong to everybody helpful!
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torrent:
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http://tau.rghost.ru/download/50482603/7c4ecd3d4aeb981efca73c61c827318e93c52591/df14.iso.torrent
i can see there are about 30 to 50 peers downloading from you or from each other. I guess man, that eventhough we're still not yet finish downloading, we are already seeding the portion that we have already downloaded.. cos a lot of times, the seeds becomes zero, but then I have 9 or 15 peers and im downloading at a decent speed...

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Re: Deep Fritz 14

Post  maelic on Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:23 pm

Bacolod Chess wrote:oH Man, after 8 hours of trying, finally, i'm running x64 now. wow it's really smooth. it runs so smooth as advertised by chessbase. this is the best since fritz 11. it runs as fast as fritz 11, or even faster. thanks maelic. i'm still downloading your torrent file. man, I just want to ask, what is the difference with your torrent and the one that pawnic shared? they're both 2.02GB.. thanks maelic, you're the hero on this Fritz 14 season
I guess they are the same.

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NEW TORRENT!

Post  maelic on Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:43 pm

I uploaded my own torrent with everything you need to run Deep Fritz 14 both 32-bit and 64-bit version. There are also instructions how to install both versions.
Everything is fully working - I personally checked it.
Code:
http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/9264413/Deep_Fritz_14
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Re: Deep Fritz 14

Post  samir70 on Thu Nov 28, 2013 4:19 pm

maelic wrote:
Bacolod Chess wrote:
maelic wrote:
seeking_assistance wrote:
maelic wrote:
seeking_assistance wrote:

anyway there is torrent also now:
Code:
http://tau.rghost.ru/download/50482603/7c4ecd3d4aeb981efca73c61c827318e93c52591/df14.iso.torrent
best regards
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thank you maelic. you're the best. this torrent version seems to work, im downloading it rght now. im just wondering if this is posted by the same user who uploading the full .iso file you provided above? or are they the same files? thanks Like a Star @ heaven ..though this torrent seems to have only one seed, and downloading atonly about 5 kbps, sometimes the seeds are even gone
yes, it is from the same author - equals the same file.

Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven  thanks torrent link work very slow rendeer 

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Re: Deep Fritz 14

Post  maelic on Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:25 am

samir70 wrote:Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven  thanks  torrent link work very slow rendeer 
Try the new one -
Code:
http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/9264413/Deep_Fritz_14
It has already enough seeders to work much faster.
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Re: Deep Fritz 14

Post  chichi on Fri Nov 29, 2013 2:29 pm

i'm not impressed at all. Many errors, Houdini 3 is slowly starting on each move. I have reverted back to 13 until all issues are solved.

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Re: Deep Fritz 14

Post  Bacolod Chess on Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:34 am

chichi wrote:i'm not impressed at all. Many errors, Houdini 3 is slowly starting on each move. I have reverted back to 13 until all issues are solved.
are you referring to x64 version only or both?

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Re: Deep Fritz 14

Post  Bacolod Chess on Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:43 am

so, is deep fritz 14 engine really a renamed pandix engine? or pandix author created fritz 14 separately?

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Re: Deep Fritz 14

Post  canetolem on Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:18 pm

I found this on activating the Deep Fritz 14 x64 version.

Intall notes for 64-bit (x64) version:
1) install x64 version - DO NOT activate
2) install x86 version (start setup in setup folder on ISO dvd)
3) copy CB-Patch (version 5.1) into the directory of x86 version (usually C:Program Files (x86)ChessbaseChessProgram14) and run it (open CB-Path.exe)
4) run x86 version and type any key you want. run program and choose FileActivationActivate Offline - type the same key, code shown above acording to tha image and any hardware ID. - program DF14 is activated also fo x64 version!
5) run x64 version - it should be ok and without any problems with activation anymore
6) if you want you can uninstall x86 version.

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Re: Deep Fritz 14

Post  maelic on Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:46 pm

canetolem wrote: I found this on activating the Deep Fritz 14 x64 version.

        Intall notes for 64-bit (x64) version:
1) install x64 version - DO NOT activate
2) install x86 version (start setup in setup folder on ISO dvd)
3) copy CB-Patch (version 5.1) into the directory of x86 version (usually C:Program Files (x86)ChessbaseChessProgram14) and run it (open CB-Path.exe)
4) run x86 version and type any key you want. run program and choose FileActivationActivate Offline - type the same key, code shown above acording to tha image and any hardware ID. - program DF14 is activated also fo x64 version!
5) run x64 version - it should be ok and without any problems with activation anymore
6) if you want you can uninstall x86 version.
yes, you found it on the previous page...

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Re: Deep Fritz 14

Post  canetolem on Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:37 pm

maelic wrote:
canetolem wrote: I found this on activating the Deep Fritz 14 x64 version.

        Intall notes for 64-bit (x64) version:
1) install x64 version - DO NOT activate
2) install x86 version (start setup in setup folder on ISO dvd)
3) copy CB-Patch (version 5.1) into the directory of x86 version (usually C:Program Files (x86)ChessbaseChessProgram14) and run it (open CB-Path.exe)
4) run x86 version and type any key you want. run program and choose FileActivationActivate Offline - type the same key, code shown above acording to tha image and any hardware ID. - program DF14 is activated also fo x64 version!
5) run x64 version - it should be ok and without any problems with activation anymore
6) if you want you can uninstall x86 version.
yes, you found it on the previous page...

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I didn't find it on previous page. I found it on pirate bay.

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Re: Deep Fritz 14

Post  Bacolod Chess on Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:47 pm

canetolem wrote:
maelic wrote:
canetolem wrote: I found this on activating the Deep Fritz 14 x64 version.

        Intall notes for 64-bit (x64) version:
1) install x64 version - DO NOT activate
2) install x86 version (start setup in setup folder on ISO dvd)
3) copy CB-Patch (version 5.1) into the directory of x86 version (usually C:Program Files (x86)ChessbaseChessProgram14) and run it (open CB-Path.exe)
4) run x86 version and type any key you want. run program and choose FileActivationActivate Offline - type the same key, code shown above acording to tha image and any hardware ID. - program DF14 is activated also fo x64 version!
5) run x64 version - it should be ok and without any problems with activation anymore
6) if you want you can uninstall x86 version.
yes, you found it on the previous page...

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  I didn't find it on previous page. I found it on pirate bay.
man, that one was first posted by maelic in the previous page. and lately, he uploaded it again in pirate bay

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Re: Deep Fritz 14

Post  Bacolod Chess on Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:54 pm

men, what about Houdini 4 in Fritz 14 bundle? Very Happy



anyone to crack ? I love you  I love you  I love you 

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Post  lukas548 on Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:46 am

Komodo 7 and stockfish snatches

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Re: Deep Fritz 14

Post  chichi on Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:33 am

Bacolod Chess wrote:
chichi wrote:i'm not impressed at all. Many errors, Houdini 3 is slowly starting on each move. I have reverted back to 13 until all issues are solved.
are you referring to x64 version only or both?
The problem seems related to Houdini 3 only, all others engines are working correctly.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I get "Engine load error" for Deep Fritz 14 engine even with a successful activation.

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Re: Deep Fritz 14

Post  Craparov on Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:29 pm

chichi wrote:
Bacolod Chess wrote:
chichi wrote:i'm not impressed at all. Many errors, Houdini 3 is slowly starting on each move. I have reverted back to 13 until all issues are solved.
are you referring to x64 version only or both?
The problem seems related to Houdini 3 only, all others engines are working correctly.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I get "Engine load error" for Deep Fritz 14 engine even with a successful activation.
I got Fritz 14 working fine on my laptop but I get the engine load error on my desktop computer. I suspect this has something to do with the processor - my desktop has an AMD processor.

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Re: Deep Fritz 14

Post  Craparov on Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:35 pm

Craparov wrote:
chichi wrote:
Bacolod Chess wrote:
chichi wrote:i'm not impressed at all. Many errors, Houdini 3 is slowly starting on each move. I have reverted back to 13 until all issues are solved.
are you referring to x64 version only or both?
The problem seems related to Houdini 3 only, all others engines are working correctly.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I get "Engine load error" for Deep Fritz 14 engine even with a successful activation.
I got Fritz 14 working fine on my laptop but I get the engine load error on my desktop computer.  I suspect this has something to do with the processor - my desktop has an AMD processor.
That might sound off the wall but the change log to an update to Fritz 14 reads as follows:

GUI 14.1 (Houdini 4)
- DF14 engine produced load error on some AMD cpus.
- DF14 engine didn't work properly in handicap mode.
- DF14 engine always used same hash size.
- DF14 engine could hang after a search.
- Searchmask in database window didn't always appear.
- Text on board didn't always disappear completely.
- Possible crash when deleting ramaining moves.
- Textfiles of games are written in UTF-8.
- Improved checks when user tries to load a 64 bit engine in 32 bit windows.
- Support of Syzygy tablebases.

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Re: Deep Fritz 14

Post  chichi on Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:07 am

Craparov wrote:
chichi wrote:
Bacolod Chess wrote:
chichi wrote:i'm not impressed at all. Many errors, Houdini 3 is slowly starting on each move. I have reverted back to 13 until all issues are solved.
are you referring to x64 version only or both?
The problem seems related to Houdini 3 only, all others engines are working correctly.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I get "Engine load error" for Deep Fritz 14 engine even with a successful activation.
I got Fritz 14 working fine on my laptop but I get the engine load error on my desktop computer.  I suspect this has something to do with the processor - my desktop has an AMD processor.
Yes, I'm AMD too. Also, Houdini 3 is weaker with Fritz14 compared to Fritz13.

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Re: Deep Fritz 14

Post  Bacolod Chess on Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:41 am

chichi wrote:
Yes, I'm AMD too. Also, Houdini 3 is weaker with Fritz14 compared to Fritz13.
how do u say that? have u tested it with engines tournament result?

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Re: Deep Fritz 14

Post  chichi on Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:03 am

Bacolod Chess wrote:
chichi wrote:
Yes, I'm AMD too. Also, Houdini 3 is weaker with Fritz14 compared to Fritz13.
how do u say that? have u tested it with engines tournament result?
Of course. I have tested it against Komodo 6. With DF14 Komodo6 wins, but with Fritz 13 Houdini 3 is the winner. The same settings.

Under DF14, Houdini 3 reaction is a bit slower. After your move, it may take few seconds until you see the engine lines working. All other engines are working perfectly with DF14. With Fritz13 everything is working perfectly for me.

Btw, I have AMD8350/32GB Ram. For some reason any engines won't let me use more than 16GB for hash. It's that pair thing 4GB,8Gb,16Gb:(

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Re: Deep Fritz 14

Post  Bacolod Chess on Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:26 am

chichi wrote:
Bacolod Chess wrote:
chichi wrote:
Yes, I'm AMD too. Also, Houdini 3 is weaker with Fritz14 compared to Fritz13.
how do u say that? have u tested it with engines tournament result?
Of course. I have tested it against Komodo 6. With DF14 Komodo6 wins, but with Fritz 13 Houdini 3 is the winner. The same settings.

Under DF14, Houdini 3 reaction is a bit slower. After your move, it may take few seconds until you see the engine lines working. All other engines are working perfectly with DF14. With Fritz13 everything is working perfectly for me.

Btw, I have AMD8350/32GB Ram. For some reason any engines won't let me use more than 16GB for hash. It's that pair thing 4GB,8Gb,16Gb:(
you have a good hardware there. i'll try to run Houdini 3 in fritz 14 GUI my self. But we should always note that testing with only 100 games is not accurate. there should be something like 500 games to be accurate. (atleast 1,000 games according to marco costalba.) he said he saw engine A leading the tournament after 500 games, but it turned out that engine B took the lead after 750 games. and I myself saw this happening in earlier games about game number less than -150. So now my new standard is to test atleast 200 games for quick and short result. 500for some accuracy. and 1,000 to be sure. You see the stockfish team test their new development versions with 10,000 games 17,000 or more.

and yes, I think some engines doesn't support too much hash table. it's useless to use very large hash anyway, for 128mb should be enough for blitz games. and as a rule, don't set a hash bigger than 50% of your system memory coz it will slow down your system, thus affecting engine speed too. about 30% is already big enough.

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Re: Deep Fritz 14

Post  chichi on Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:48 am

I need a lot of hash because I'm analyzing many variants for hours. If positions are saved in memory the process become faster. With 16GB of 32GB of total RAM I don't see any performance degradation even if I temporary stop the main GUI then start other GUI + other engine (komod6) with 8GB of hash ->24GB of total hash.
These days RAM is are very, very cheap and it is a good idea to have at least 16GB of RAM. Even a cheap motherboard supports up to 32GB of RAM.

Regarding Houdini + DF14, the issue is very clear. It is a bug. At least for me, the engine is starting to work after seconds when you make a move and for short games this is a real issue.

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Re: Deep Fritz 14

Post  Bacolod Chess on Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:00 am

Man, I have just test my Houdini_3_Pro_x64 with Deep Fritz 14 x86 GUI and it works fine. It fired up it's lines instantly after I made a move. I also tried to fire it up on evaluation mode (fritz switch off engine and on again, as if Kbitzing mode) and it also fired up it's evaluation lines instantly after I made a move.

Are you using x64 GUI? If yes, I think x64 GUI is really buggy as you can read in my other thread (the Yet Another Deep Fritz Thread.) Try using x86, it's response time is as quick as Fritz 11 or other versions of Fritz. I'm having trouble with x64, it loads slower than x86. Else, try reinstalling your GUI, make a clean install, clean up registry, check disk "chkdsk c:/f" in DOS command prompt. well, im using windows 8 here. You should have a faster response time coz you have a much better machine than I.

I also tested Houdini 3 Pro x64 against Stockfish DD in Fritz 14 GUI and Houdini is catching up with Stockfish, trailing Stockfish by one or two points in my unfinished tournament. It's working Ok

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Re: Deep Fritz 14

Post  chichi on Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:33 am

I have tested with both x64, x86, with the same results. All other engines are working perfectly, Houdini 3 not. Plus the GUI is slower sometimes.
As the Fritz13 is working perfectly compared to DF14, I don't care too much. But the issue is definitely not related to my computer.

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Re: Deep Fritz 14

Post  Bacolod Chess on Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:36 am

there should be an installation problem man, because we don't have the same problem.

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