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Post  pancuca on Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:58 pm

Do you know what happened with that site?

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maybe ChessBase do the job

Post  ThunderTerminator on Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:25 am

Maybe ChessBase knows there, and do the cleaning job.

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Re: Immortalchess has been shut?

Post  Birdy on Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:36 am

Yes.
It has been difficult to login there.
Maybe server problems or the beginning of the end.

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Re: Immortalchess has been shut?

Post  Future Jim on Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:08 am

Birdy wrote:Yes.
It has been difficult to login there.
Maybe server problems or the beginning of the end.

I had the same experience over the weekend and last night. You would occasionally get logged in and then the page would time out. The server is offline today. Getting a "404 Not Found" message.

Maybe a DDoS attack?

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Re: Immortalchess has been shut?

Post  rupelstiltskin on Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:55 am

Yes, The main Site and the Backup Site are gone. "404 Not Found" displayed.

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Re: Immortalchess has been shut?

Post  Golemcillo on Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:36 pm

also the ctorrent site is down, i think for good!

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Re: Immortalchess has been shut?

Post  gambit_man on Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:30 pm

Yep I started having problems on Sunday but could get in occasionally for a few minutes at a time and then bomb out again. Even yesterday I was getting some success trying all possible combinations of urls as follows but today none of them work and cannot get in at all.  The http ones just give a 404 gateway error but the https ones do at least start to say "connecting to Immortal" but then just time out and hang. We do not know if it is a technical issue with the host of the server, or if it is the result of action somehow taken maybe by commercial software vendors/suppliers who have objected to the file sharing:

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http://immortal223.pozitiffchess.net/forum/index.php

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http://immortalchess.net/forum/index.php

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http://pozitiffchess.net/forum/index.php

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https://immortal223.pozitiffchess.net/forum/index.php

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https://immortalchess.net/forum/index.php

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https://pozitiffchess.net/forum/index.php

This is a really great shame as it is an amazing community of thousands of members and the combined knowledge and resources of that forum are a great plus to the world of computer chess. I have been an active  member there since 2010 as have many others. If we have lost it for ever it is a great shame.

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We are Immortal !!

Post  Carlos Ylich on Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:40 pm

I agree. I'm hoping it's a temporary problem. If Immortal is forbidden, we will be reborn on another server !!
We Are Immortal !!
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Re: Immortalchess has been shut?

Post  gambit_man on Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:24 pm

Now getting this message which hopefully is a bit more encouraging as it suggests the server is unavailable due to maintenance ie. a technical issue being fixed as opposed to us being shut down ?


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Re: Immortalchess has been shut?

Post  Future Jim on Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:16 pm

Just got home from work and saw the 503 message. As I said earlier, I am wondering if the server was attacked.  It had all the symptoms of a DDoS strike.  

I, too, have been a member of Immortal for awhile.  People such as yourself, Paulie D, CBF, Everest, Fossillshunter, Indianajones (to name just a few), made my enjoyment of computer chess much richer.  Many, including myself, contributing to the community. Hopefully, things get back to normal there or, as Carlos Ylich puts it "we will be reborn on another server !!
We Are Immortal !!"  +1

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Re: Immortalchess has been shut?

Post  One Piace on Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:11 pm

Immortal Forum Hacked ,By Cracker, from Komodo Chess Engine Company Atckking Ddos
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Re: Immortalchess has been shut?

Post  ZeusII on Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:35 pm

One Piace wrote:Immortal Forum Hacked ,By Cracker, from Komodo Chess Engine Company Atckking Ddos
maybe, but definitely bad ADMIN, a backup should ALWAYS be available!

There seems good interest (500+ views) so I've emailed their HOST and OWNER. Sometimes this works!?


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Re: Immortalchess has been shut?

Post  Future Jim on Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:05 am

Thanks Zeus II. Hope you get a response.

If I recall correctly, they had a copy of the forum made during the transition from immortalchess.net to immortal223.pozitiffchess.net. Hopefully, they continued with that practice to a certain extent. It would be a tragedy if everything was lost.

I am pretty certain the CEO, Pozitiffchess, is not a fan of chess engine related matters on the forum. I have read some of his posts on the Russian and English sections of the forum and he doesn't mince his words on the subject. I am curious to see if he provides an explanation on what went down over the weekend - provided the forum returns at all. I hope it does.

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Immortalchess.net is blocked ?

Post  privacy on Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:55 am

Immortalchess.net is unable to reach ..I am very much upset .Any idea about what happened to the site? Will it be back ?.I am keeping my finger crossed.

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Re: Immortalchess has been shut?

Post  ZeusII on Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:29 pm

No response to my emails.

Check immortalchess.net using host-tracker.com or mxtoolbox.com or whatever.
http: times out everywhere today, no graphic like yesterday.
ping: most OK, but a few locations blocked such as London UK.
You can try some of the other tests too from your location, except UK may need to use a proxy.
Possibly the UK government has blocked access, but I haven't researched it.

You can try the same for pozitiffchess.net which gives similar results from here (in USA).

The owner has pulled the plug intentionally (IMO).
It was basically a 1 man operation, too much for him to handle.
Unlikely to return, odds optimistically only 10% Sad

Please don't shoot the messenger! Smile
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Re: Immortalchess has been shut?

Post  Golemcillo on Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:12 pm

ok, what can we do?

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Re: Immortalchess has been shut?

Post  gambit_man on Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:15 pm

ZeusII wrote:No response to my emails.

Check immortalchess.net using host-tracker.com or mxtoolbox.com or whatever.
http: times out everywhere today, no graphic like yesterday.
ping: most OK, but a few locations blocked such as London UK.
You can try some of the other tests too from your location, except UK may need to use a proxy.
Possibly the UK government has blocked access, but I haven't researched it.

You can try the same for pozitiffchess.net which gives similar results from here (in USA).

The owner has pulled the plug intentionally (IMO).
It was basically a 1 man operation, too much for him to handle.
Unlikely to return, odds optimistically only 10% Sad

Please don't shoot the messenger! Smile

Zeus II thanks for update and views. Interesting you say that you think the plug has been pulled intentionally. Ishmael had been telling me via PMs recently that there were "spies" all over the forum and that some of the commercial chess software/DVD vendors were getting increasingly aggressive in attempts to stop our file sharing. In fact one Immortal member who shared a DVD recently was apparantly tracked down somehow and the DVD company threatened legal action against him personally and to sue him in court. It does make me wonder whether this has been a concerted effort by commercial interested parties to get the forum closed ? Is anyone here in contact via email with any of the other senior forum members who may have some idea of what has happened ? Sadly I am not as I never had contact with the community other than through the forum.

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Re: Immortalchess has been shut?

Post  Golemcillo on Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:19 pm

i have the email of Ilmarine

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Re: Immortalchess has been shut?

Post  gambit_man on Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:40 pm

Guys,

Not sure exactly what this is but I stumbled across this page by chance. It seems to be a snapshot of the forum as of 8th July.  If you click "browse all articles" at the top there are 101 pages of posts from 2012 to recent. You can't actually click and open any of the posts as it just hangs forever but you can read the first line of each post. I have  scanned through and in some cases links to material is visible in that first line and you can copy paste the links. Am just wondering if this is at least a way of trying to harvest some of the material while we can before it is lost for good.

Anyway see what you make of this:

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http://immortal129.rssing.com/chan-6347258/all_p101.html

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Re: Immortalchess has been shut?

Post  Sorceror on Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:52 pm

When they added the pozitiff mirror, didn't they say they weren't sure if the immortalchess.net domain would be online after the end of July? It sounded like they were going to have to migrate servers, or perhaps their ownership of the domain name was expiring. I thought when immortalchess.net went down, that the pozitiff domain would still be working, but it looks like it's just mirroring immortalchess.net.

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Re: Immortalchess has been shut?

Post  chessgod101 on Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:42 pm

I haven't heard anything as of yet. I am trying to contact the admins, but have yet to receive a response. I will keep everyone informed if I hear anything.
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Re: Immortalchess has been shut?

Post  E_Meyer on Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:09 pm

I still hope it's just a server problem. Fingers crossed

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Re: Immortalchess has been shut?

Post  oratios on Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:58 am

It seems Forum hacked. The restoration of a mirror is easy but the final treatment is difficult and requires specialized knowledge.

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Re: Immortalchess has been shut?

Post  gambit_man on Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:25 am

oratios wrote:It seems Forum hacked. The restoration of a mirror is easy but the final treatment is difficult and requires specialized knowledge.

Hi thanks for info. Is it absolutely definite that it has been hacked or is that a best guess ?  I just wondered because (and I am no expert) if it had been a DDOS type attck I thought that mainly restricted access for a short period of time and that once the attack ended access was restored because netwrok traffic resumed normal levels.  I hadn't realised it could damage the forum itself.  Or are you thinking of a different type of hacking ? What is invovled in the "final treatment" ?

Thanks

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Re: Immortalchess has been shut?

Post  Sorceror on Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:35 am

I definitely recall reading a post by immortal223 I think it was saying that he knew people might not be able to access the site after the end of July. He wrote that months ago. I think it was a planned thing, but that their back up isn't up and ready as planned.

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